2022-‘Andor’ Actors Reveal Their Star Wars Action Figure Dreams


Andor‘s first three episodes land on Disney Plus on Wednesday, Sept. 21, giving us a galaxy-size serving to of the brand new Star Wars present. This Rogue One prequel sequence dives into the backstory of the morally questionable Cassian Andor (Diego Luna), who’ll go on to change into a hero of the Insurgent Alliance because it faces down the Galactic Empire.

Since this present is about 5 years earlier than Rogue One (itself a prequel to unique Star Wars film, A New Hope), Cassian is not fairly the liberty fighter we all know he’ll change into. The Insurgent Alliance hasn’t fashioned but both; it is only a scattered bunch of insurgent cells making feeble efforts in opposition to Emperor Palpatine’s totalitarian regime.

Andor is not your typical Star Wars present. As an alternative of the standard lightsaber-wielding area wizards, assaults on planet-killing battle stations, or armored Child Yoda dads, it focuses on the darkish actuality of residing below the Empire, and the risks of standing as much as oppression. These are the tough corners of the universe that sequence creator and author Tony Gilroy revels in, having beforehand written the primary 4 Bourne films and co-written Rogue One).

Rejoining Luna in a galaxy far, far-off is Genevieve O’Reilly as future Insurgent Alliance chief Mon Mothma (a job she beforehand performed in Revenge of the Sith, Rogue One and CGI animated sequence Rebels). Coming to the Star Wars universe for the primary time are Adria Arjona as Cassian’s loyal buddy Bix Caleen, Fiona Shaw as his adoptive mom Maarva, and Kyle Soller as Syril Karn, an uptight safety inspector decided to search out our hero.

I received the prospect to have enjoyable chats with O’Reilly, Arjona, Shaw and Soller over Zoom about exploring a brand new aspect of Star Wars; the place their characters slot in; and — most significantly of all — what gear they reckon their motion figures ought to include.

This is a transcript of our conversations, edited collectively for readability.

Q. That is essentially the most grounded Star Wars effort we have ever seen. Why do you assume it was vital to take that strategy with this present?
Soller: Rogue One had components of ’70s thriller, motion movie, but in addition was actually gritty and human. In one of many first scenes, Cassian shoots considered one of his pals — for the sake of the rebel, however he makes lots of questionable choices.

Constructing off that incredible movie, you may invent and examine these different characters who’re sitting in that very same grey space, and are all in a strategy of genesis — of turning into who they assume they may wish to be, and determining what they imagine in. 

Syril Karn gazes a hologram of Cassian Andor in Andor

Syril Karn is set to carry Cassian to justice.


We additionally see sides of the Empire and the rebel that we’ve not seen earlier than. The Empire that you just meet in A New Hope just isn’t the one that you just meet in Andor. It is fats and lazy, as Cassian says, and also you get an inside view into the sort of company construction system — like a office surroundings. 

After which on the rebel aspect, you see this planet that’s simply full of individuals making an attempt to outlive. And it is actual domesticity — gritty and human. There is a deal with human lives as they battle to outlive. Each considered one of these characters is sitting inside their very own little mini rebel in their very own life. 

It was so refreshing to learn: It is a sociopolitical drama; it is a spy thriller; it is a home drama; it is virtually a office comedy. It is also Star Wars, instructed over 12 episodes that may obtain this stage of element. 

O’Reilly: I feel while you put somebody like Tony Gilroy as the pinnacle creator and author of a sequence, it’ll be excited about investigating the folks, relationships and textures — issues quite than in broad strokes. It is all the time going to be grittier.

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Shaw: Having written Rogue One, [in Andor] Tony Gilroy dared to excavate the emotional relationships between folks. Individuals of all ages, backgrounds, upbringings and nations can relate to the household. 

And he is not making an attempt to attract conclusions in regards to the characters. As an alternative we have got folks in all of the mess of human feelings, values, sluggish journeys, immoral journeys.

Arjona: It is about folks at a cusp of a revolution. Tony actually did an excellent job of showcasing and mirroring our actual world. There is no good and unhealthy, it is all murky. This present — each character — lives in that grey space. With the intention to perceive somebody’s morality, it is advisable perceive that individual’s intimacy as effectively. It is extremely human, extremely grounded and darker. It isn’t so happy-go-lucky.

Bix Caleen looks concerned as she climbs a ladder in Andor

Bix Caleen has a posh relationship with Cassian.


Adria, the place does Bix match into this darker nook of the galaxy?
Arjona: Once we first meet Bix, she’s very steady. She has a enterprise, she’s profitable, and other people respect her. However she has this relationship with Cassian —  second you see, you are like, “Oh, these two have been by means of it collectively, they usually belief one another.” However there’s additionally this pressure.

Does she assist her buddy? Does she not assist their buddy? “That is somebody I like who’s a ache within the ass generally, however I am gonna assist him.” She understands the second in historical past that she is in and makes a giant determination. When individuals are on the cusp of a revolution, there’s this camaraderie. 

Fiona, there is a level the place you warn Bee-Two, the droid, that you will be “so cross” with it if it is charging in one of many rooms. The best way you ship that line is superb.
Shaw: I feel the droid is like having a canine that pees on the ground. It has to maintain charging up, its battery-bladder is not nearly as good because it was.

Cassian Andor crouches beside cute red droid B2EMO in Andor.

B2EMO is an enthralling droid, however getting a bit creaky.


An outdated droid is subsequent to an outdated lady; meet Maarva very late in her life. It was additionally a pleasure for me to play someone a lot older, after which someone youthful, than myself [when the show flashes back to The Clone Wars era]. I used to be neither age, I reached out for the Maarva who’s sick, outdated and has a really outdated droid, and the youthful one with a younger droid.

You touched on the truth that we meet Marva in two time durations. How does that match this grounded tackle Star Wars?
Shaw: It performs into the story of how Maarva and Cassian are mom and son. He has a really totally different accent. We get to grasp that.


Maarva lived a lifetime of journey however has slowed down by the point we meet her within the present.


We additionally see the sort of life Maarva had [in the flashback scenes]. She’s someone with a really broad thoughts who has traveled everywhere in the universe with their husband, gathering bits of steel. She meets his boy and takes him residence — he will need to have been an enormous change for her life, as a lot as she is for his. He could have saved her, a bit.

Genevieve, that is Mon Mothma’s largest look to this point. Was that thrilling for you?
O’Reilly: Sure. She is a girl who I’ve received to play earlier than — she’s often surrounded by rebels; a pacesetter who sends folks off on missions. How did she get there? What sacrifices did she must make? As a result of we begin Andor in a really totally different place than Rogue One, we have now time to discover what these prices are.


Mon Mothma is taking part in a harmful political sport.


Once we meet her in Andor, she is not surrounded by rebels, she is steeped throughout the Empire, she is a lonely feminine voice of opposition in opposition to Palpatine within the Imperial Senate. It is a harmful place to be in.

She has labored for a few years, as a senator making an attempt to impact change from inside that Imperial system. She’s now at a degree the place she has to step outdoors it — she has to danger all of it for what she believes.

We all know by means of Star Wars lore that she’s been a senator from the age of 16. What are the realities of a life like that? What are the customs? What are the rituals of the planet Chandrila that has a youngster inside such a construction, what number of selections did she actually have? And is that this the primary time she’s prepared to danger making a real selection?

Mon Mothma already has some motion figures primarily based on her past appearances; they each include batons. To the actors new to Star Wars — provided that your character is an extension of your persona and Star Wars has all the time been related to motion figures — what equipment do you assume your determine ought to include? 
Soller: Nicely, Syril’s received to have a comb, and possibly received to have a journey steamer as effectively. One thing to shine his sneakers as effectively, a kind of little fast wipes. It must be a Star Wars dopp equipment, his private accoutrement to guarantee that he is pressed and firmly put collectively.

Arjona: Within the first scene, I put on this vest, my work apron. And I simply assume it is essentially the most badass factor. If I have been to have an motion determine, I really need that outfit. And I need the piece of equipment that I click on off when Cassian is available in. I wish to be holding that and carrying all my leather-based.

Shaw: Oh, God. That is too arduous. I feel most likely only a jumpsuit of some variety [laughs].


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